“I talk to American intelligence. I talk to American leaders. There is no difference in the assessment of intelligence. It’s true that probably Khamenei did not give an order to start building a weapon or a device. But why is he doing this? Just because he understands that is he starts to break the IAEA [safeguards] and starts to actually build a weapon, he might find himself faced with an American response or Israeli response, or whoever, in a way that might damage him… but they are clearly heading towards this objective.” (Interview with CNN)